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Question: Why was a game fixtured on Australia day? and why would that game be a 2 day game
Answer: There are 26 Saturdays between 1 October and 31 March, 3 are used for finals, 2 are immediately after Christmas and the last weekend in March is not used (allows clubs to clean up and hand over rooms to football).
This leaves 20 Saturday's to fit 10/11 rounds for the Top four grades and 14 rounds for all others. The VMCU playing fixture guides the RDCA fixture and following this structure helps avoid interassociation ground clashes, the 2 one day games were scheduled as the first games played in January and to get the required number of games in the season Saturday 26 January is to be used.
The last 3 games of the season are usually two day games allowing teams to prepare for the 2 day game finals.
To not play because Saturday 26 January is Australia Day disadvantages those who want to play cricket whether it is a one or two day game. The Monday is the holiday so we all get a three day weekend. For those who would prefer not play cricket on this day, clubs should be questioning their players commitment to our game.
Last Updated: Sun 20th Jan 2013
Answer: There are 26 Saturdays between 1 October and 31 March, 3 are used for finals, 2 are immediately after Christmas and the last weekend in March is not used (allows clubs to clean up and hand over rooms to football).
This leaves 20 Saturday's to fit 10/11 rounds for the Top four grades and 14 rounds for all others. The VMCU playing fixture guides the RDCA fixture and following this structure helps avoid interassociation ground clashes, the 2 one day games were scheduled as the first games played in January and to get the required number of games in the season Saturday 26 January is to be used.
The last 3 games of the season are usually two day games allowing teams to prepare for the 2 day game finals.
To not play because Saturday 26 January is Australia Day disadvantages those who want to play cricket whether it is a one or two day game. The Monday is the holiday so we all get a three day weekend. For those who would prefer not play cricket on this day, clubs should be questioning their players commitment to our game.
Last Updated: Sun 20th Jan 2013
Question: What are the specific rules for the modified format? Are there any changes from last year?
Answer: The rules for Split Innings in the Seniors can be found on the last page of the Senior Match Handbook and the the details of the Juniors can be found in the Junior Rules. Both these documents are in the Downloads section. There have been changes in both the Junior and Senior sections.
Last Updated: Mon 1st Oct 2012
Answer: The rules for Split Innings in the Seniors can be found on the last page of the Senior Match Handbook and the the details of the Juniors can be found in the Junior Rules. Both these documents are in the Downloads section. There have been changes in both the Junior and Senior sections.
Last Updated: Mon 1st Oct 2012
Question: We are trying to put two teams up for the vets and i am unsure if there is any allowence for any 39yo to play for us to make up numbers ?
Answer: Unfortunately not. Veterans Rule 3 states that players must be 40 years of age.
Last Updated: Thu 20th Sep 2012
Answer: Unfortunately not. Veterans Rule 3 states that players must be 40 years of age.
Last Updated: Thu 20th Sep 2012
Question: I was just looking at the fixture on MyCricket, and noticed that Eastfields games in Wilkins are scheduled for Griff Hunt on Saturdays. I just wanted to confirm that this is correct, mainly due to the following from the draft fixtures: "Please note that due to Benson Oval being out of action Eastfield (Wilkins and D grade) will be playing their home games at Glen Park but on the Sunday. (If we can find a suitable ground for Saturday's then we will but at this stage that is not the case.)".
I assume that MyCricket is correct but just wanted clarification as I haven't seen anything else suggesting the change has occurred.
Answer: Maroondah Council allocated Griff Hunt to Eastfield thus allowing home games to be scheduled for Saturday's as Benson Oval is being redeveloped. My Cricket is correct and Fixture Version 3 has been distributed to clubs superseding Version 1.
Last Updated: Tue 11th Sep 2012
Answer: Maroondah Council allocated Griff Hunt to Eastfield thus allowing home games to be scheduled for Saturday's as Benson Oval is being redeveloped. My Cricket is correct and Fixture Version 3 has been distributed to clubs superseding Version 1.
Last Updated: Tue 11th Sep 2012
Question: Is there a possibility of names and numbers appearing on playing shirts in 'Premier Grades' ?
Answer: Thanks for the question. It is probably a question best suited to the Senior Committee. I presume you are talking about white shirts and I am not sure of any benefit in doing this as I am not sure it adds anything, especially in the top grades where most players know each other reasonably well. It would also add an expense, especially to those players hoping to move up to the top teams (buying another shirt etc) at a time when we are trying to keep the cost of playing down. If clubs want to pursue this I would suggest correspondence (from the club, not individuals) be directed to the Senior Committee Secretary.
Last Updated: Fri 24th Aug 2012
Answer: Thanks for the question. It is probably a question best suited to the Senior Committee. I presume you are talking about white shirts and I am not sure of any benefit in doing this as I am not sure it adds anything, especially in the top grades where most players know each other reasonably well. It would also add an expense, especially to those players hoping to move up to the top teams (buying another shirt etc) at a time when we are trying to keep the cost of playing down. If clubs want to pursue this I would suggest correspondence (from the club, not individuals) be directed to the Senior Committee Secretary.
Last Updated: Fri 24th Aug 2012
Question: When and where can I find the 2010-11 senior fixtures ?
Answer: The Senior Fixture is currently being completed and we hope to release a DRAFT fixture covering down to G Grade within the next few days. Grades below that will not be released until after final team nominations are received (due 10th September). The completion of gradings and fixtures is being hampered by the unavailability of a number of grounds due to Councils undertaking ground renovations etc.
Last Updated: Tue 24th Aug 2010
Answer: The Senior Fixture is currently being completed and we hope to release a DRAFT fixture covering down to G Grade within the next few days. Grades below that will not be released until after final team nominations are received (due 10th September). The completion of gradings and fixtures is being hampered by the unavailability of a number of grounds due to Councils undertaking ground renovations etc.
Last Updated: Tue 24th Aug 2010
Question: Say both the 1's and 2's from a particular club made the finals. In the first week the 1's side qualify into the grand final where the 2's only make the preliminary final. My question is if someone had only qualified for the 1's side and played 2's in the 1st week of the finals, could they play in the preliminary final?
Answer: Check out the Senior Rules in the Downloads section of the website.Rule 76 (c) covers the eligibility of players during finals. If still in doubt, contact Senior Registration Secretary Roger Copeland whose details can be found in the Contacts section of the website.
Last Updated: Tue 9th Mar 2010
Answer: Check out the Senior Rules in the Downloads section of the website.Rule 76 (c) covers the eligibility of players during finals. If still in doubt, contact Senior Registration Secretary Roger Copeland whose details can be found in the Contacts section of the website.
Last Updated: Tue 9th Mar 2010
Question: Does the RDCA have a set of rules or guidelines to determine whether a player can be be qualified to recieve an RDCA Life Membership ? (as a player only)
Answer: Life Membership of the Association is covered in Rule 3 (b). That Rule says, in part, that any nominee for Life Membership must have given "special service to the Association and the game ". There are no guidelines that provide specific 'requirements' for Life Membership but service and contribution to the Association in some way is seen as a requirement.
Last Updated: Sun 10th Jan 2010
Answer: Life Membership of the Association is covered in Rule 3 (b). That Rule says, in part, that any nominee for Life Membership must have given "special service to the Association and the game ". There are no guidelines that provide specific 'requirements' for Life Membership but service and contribution to the Association in some way is seen as a requirement.
Last Updated: Sun 10th Jan 2010
Question: In the rule book it states that at 11am on Match day the RDCA will call the weather line to see if the forecast is for 40 degrees or more. If so the day will be called off and clubs notified. Since Chandler, Wilkins and Newey are starting at 11am what is happening with this rule for this week ?
Answer: The Heat Policy mentions that if the temperature is forecast to be more than 40 degrees at 11 a.m. then all scheduled matches will be abandoned for the day. In practice, the Weather Bureau usually does not often change forecast temperatures during the day however should this be the case on Saturday then the Heat Policy will still apply. Clubs will be advised as early as possible if this is the case. The Heat Policy also contains procedures to apply if the ACTUAL temperature rises above 40 degrees during the day.
Last Updated: Mon 4th Jan 2010
Answer: The Heat Policy mentions that if the temperature is forecast to be more than 40 degrees at 11 a.m. then all scheduled matches will be abandoned for the day. In practice, the Weather Bureau usually does not often change forecast temperatures during the day however should this be the case on Saturday then the Heat Policy will still apply. Clubs will be advised as early as possible if this is the case. The Heat Policy also contains procedures to apply if the ACTUAL temperature rises above 40 degrees during the day.
Last Updated: Mon 4th Jan 2010
Question: Ian, your answer and the 'rationalisation' provided by the Senior commitee to the question posed 29th Sept. seems to be contradicted by your answer given on 31st December. This latter question was about the merits of having 1st XI's only in the Premier Grades.
Does the decision to exclude Mooroolbark from A grade fly in the face of the spirit of 'open grading' and each team finding their competitive level?
Answer: The answer I gave to a question back in December was based on the then current situation - a lot has happened in the interim ! In December the Executive was unaware that some clubs would mount a push for a (subsequently successful) re-structure of the senior playing grades, nor was it aware of the subsequent welcome admission of a new club to our senior competition. In the meantime a re-vamp of the Association administration structure had placed the issue of team grading with the new Senior Committee ( the old Senior Operations Committee). In other words, the circumstances have changed somewhat since last December until now. The reasoning behind the recent grading decisions has been detailed - in essence the Senior Committee has decided to implement the recent grading re-structure with most clubs first and second elevens playing two day cricket if possible and that in the initial season of the re-structure to give priority to have some clubs have their first and second elevens, at least, play at the same level as in the previous season. The introduction of a new club necessitated a further 'tweaking' of the grading structure. The Senior Committee has also announced that, for the current season, a 'two up, two down" policy will apply from A Grade down with a revision of this decision to be undertaken prior to the 2010/11 season commencing.
Last Updated: Sat 17th Oct 2009
Answer: The answer I gave to a question back in December was based on the then current situation - a lot has happened in the interim ! In December the Executive was unaware that some clubs would mount a push for a (subsequently successful) re-structure of the senior playing grades, nor was it aware of the subsequent welcome admission of a new club to our senior competition. In the meantime a re-vamp of the Association administration structure had placed the issue of team grading with the new Senior Committee ( the old Senior Operations Committee). In other words, the circumstances have changed somewhat since last December until now. The reasoning behind the recent grading decisions has been detailed - in essence the Senior Committee has decided to implement the recent grading re-structure with most clubs first and second elevens playing two day cricket if possible and that in the initial season of the re-structure to give priority to have some clubs have their first and second elevens, at least, play at the same level as in the previous season. The introduction of a new club necessitated a further 'tweaking' of the grading structure. The Senior Committee has also announced that, for the current season, a 'two up, two down" policy will apply from A Grade down with a revision of this decision to be undertaken prior to the 2010/11 season commencing.
Last Updated: Sat 17th Oct 2009
Question: Does u/16d break for cup weekend as many families go away???
Notification or a complete fixture would be great...
Regards Mum of obsessed cricketers
Answer: No, the Junior Fixture continues right up to the Christmas break. Fixture dates are in the Calander section of the website.
Last Updated: Sun 11th Oct 2009
Answer: No, the Junior Fixture continues right up to the Christmas break. Fixture dates are in the Calander section of the website.
Last Updated: Sun 11th Oct 2009
Question: I believe this is the best place to ask this question. Why have rangers jumped from c to a grade ,and mooroolbark that finished in the top half of b is still there . simply does not seem to make sense ,mooroolbark finished ahead of montrose sta , bpcc , and surely it still can be fixed before the start of the season
Answer: The reasons for all grading decisions were announced in Circular number 5 which is available in the Downloads section of the website. The Senior Committee has the responsibility for the grading of teams in the Senior competition and has detailed the factors that were taken into account when completing that task for this season. With less than one week to go it is not possible for the Senior Committee to re-visit the topic of team gradings and their final grading structure will stand.
Last Updated: Mon 28th Sep 2009
Answer: The reasons for all grading decisions were announced in Circular number 5 which is available in the Downloads section of the website. The Senior Committee has the responsibility for the grading of teams in the Senior competition and has detailed the factors that were taken into account when completing that task for this season. With less than one week to go it is not possible for the Senior Committee to re-visit the topic of team gradings and their final grading structure will stand.
Last Updated: Mon 28th Sep 2009
Question: Just wondering how i would go about seeking permission to play in under 18ns in the t20 comp as i am a few mounths over the age limit
Answer: You can apply to the Junior Committee for an exemption, but would there have been no exemptions of this nature granted in the last 10 seasons (except for female cricketers or for medical reasons).
Last Updated: Thu 24th Sep 2009
Answer: You can apply to the Junior Committee for an exemption, but would there have been no exemptions of this nature granted in the last 10 seasons (except for female cricketers or for medical reasons).
Last Updated: Thu 24th Sep 2009
Question: When will the Fixture be out for both Seniors and Vets
Answer: We are still waiting on a couple of Councils to finalise ground allocations. I'd suggest it may not be released until after Senior Committee meeting on Monday evening and it is my understanding that the Veterans fixture will be released in the next few days.
Last Updated: Tue 15th Sep 2009
Answer: We are still waiting on a couple of Councils to finalise ground allocations. I'd suggest it may not be released until after Senior Committee meeting on Monday evening and it is my understanding that the Veterans fixture will be released in the next few days.
Last Updated: Tue 15th Sep 2009
Question: Just wondering if the RDCA have thought of presenting the winning Grand Final team with a medal instead of a patch which is what the runners up win as well? Having seen other associations present their winners with medals seems a good idea. A medal is something to treasure for ever where as 15 to 16 year old boys would never let you sew a patch onto their playing shirt, no matter how proud they are.
Answer: It is something has been discussed a few times and has many varying views. At this point we feel the badges are the best all round option, but the Junior Committee will discuss at their next meeting.
Last Updated: Tue 15th Sep 2009
Answer: It is something has been discussed a few times and has many varying views. At this point we feel the badges are the best all round option, but the Junior Committee will discuss at their next meeting.
Last Updated: Tue 15th Sep 2009
Question: Is there any thought by the BOM to change the finals format in Chandler Shield - Why i ask is that in all other grades we have a top 4 (8 team comp) and we only have a top 4 in a 12 team comp.
Answer: No, there is no thought to change the finals system at this stage. Clubs have the opportunity to put forward suggested Rule changes if they so desire however we have not been in receipt of any such suggestion.
Last Updated: Sun 9th Aug 2009
Answer: No, there is no thought to change the finals system at this stage. Clubs have the opportunity to put forward suggested Rule changes if they so desire however we have not been in receipt of any such suggestion.
Last Updated: Sun 9th Aug 2009
Question: I was wondering when your website manager is going to upload the finals fixture? Could he/she please do so? I am very interested to find out! Thank you, very much.
Answer: Circular 15 will be released this afternoon (Monday) and will contain the fixture details for the first week of the finals.
Last Updated: Mon 2nd Mar 2009
Answer: Circular 15 will be released this afternoon (Monday) and will contain the fixture details for the first week of the finals.
Last Updated: Mon 2nd Mar 2009
Question: If rival team is forfeiting and don't show up, how many points are earned by the other team?
Answer: This is covered in Rule 64 (a). Where a team receives a forfeit they are entitled to "maximum points awarded in that grade in that round, including Bonus Points "
Last Updated: Sun 22nd Feb 2009
Answer: This is covered in Rule 64 (a). Where a team receives a forfeit they are entitled to "maximum points awarded in that grade in that round, including Bonus Points "
Last Updated: Sun 22nd Feb 2009
Question: I understand there are rules and regulations, but along with many other extremely frustrated parents, would like to see some common sense prevail with the current 'Heat Policy' for the Juniors. I don't want to offend, but I am not interested in past history of playing in the 40+ degs and we were o.k. T.V. National News has experts stating that playing these sports in these extreme conditions is dangerous, and claiming they should be cancelled (Tens Late News last night). What is the problem in making an executive decision and calling off the games in these rare circumstances. I attended 2 matches last Saturday and could see the boys were struggling in the heat - along with the officials and the parents. Half the grounds you struggle to get out of the sun? This week is going to be even hotter. So, we play and play until someone out there keels over and collapses in a heap - be it a junior (they are children you know) or a spectator, etc. Please bare in mind, we all love the game, we all enjoy attending and want them to go ahead, but please, lets not forget that it is a game of Junior Cricket for the kids. Lets also consider most of them have just started back to school, along with the extreme heat over the past few weeks - it all takes it out of them. Lets not put their health or their love of the game in jeopardy. Please be proactive and do something now, rather than reactive and sorry.
Answer: The Junior Heat Policy does not allow matches to be played in temperatures that exceed 36 degrees, so no matches would ever be played in 40+ degree heat.
With Junior matches being played in the morning it is rare that the temperature passes 30 degrees on too many occasions, however as per Saturday morning, if the temperature passes 36 degrees then play will be abandoned.
The Junior Executive monitor the temperatures and all decisions are made for the best interests for all participants in the Junior Association.
Last Updated: Mon 9th Feb 2009
Answer: The Junior Heat Policy does not allow matches to be played in temperatures that exceed 36 degrees, so no matches would ever be played in 40+ degree heat.
With Junior matches being played in the morning it is rare that the temperature passes 30 degrees on too many occasions, however as per Saturday morning, if the temperature passes 36 degrees then play will be abandoned.
The Junior Executive monitor the temperatures and all decisions are made for the best interests for all participants in the Junior Association.
Last Updated: Mon 9th Feb 2009
Question: Ju wanting to clarify how many games are required to be played to qualify for finals if 14 round are played with 2 wash outs plus a possible sun out.
Answer: Refer to Circular 11. The rule now is that you must play at least 5 games in that grade or lower to qualify. This nis now the case for all grades this season.
Last Updated: Sun 1st Feb 2009
Answer: Refer to Circular 11. The rule now is that you must play at least 5 games in that grade or lower to qualify. This nis now the case for all grades this season.
Last Updated: Sun 1st Feb 2009
Question: I just want to get the heat rule clarified for this week for the safety of players playing in the lower grades from 2nds to 6ths.
I was trying to find it in the downloads but I couldn't find it.
Thanks
Jason
Answer: The RDCA Senior Heat Policy reads as follows : "Should the forecast (at 11 a.m. on the day of play) be for a maximum of MORE than 40 degress, then ALL scheduled matches will be abandoned for the day. Confirmation of such a decision will be sent to club contacts by SMS message and also be available on the RDCA telephone number of 9876 7206 by 12 noon.
Where play proceeds, on a day where the temperature may reach more than 40 degrees, the Umpires or Captains (lower grades) are to telephone 9669 4916 prior to the commencement of play and then at scheduled breaks in play (drinks, and tea) to check the current temperature. Should it be "MORE than 40 degrees" (i.e. 40.1 or more) then play is to be suspended until the temperature drops to 40 degrees or less. Umpires and lower grade captains (by agreement) are empowered to terminate play for the day in the interests of participant welfare. Where there is a desire to continue, the temperature should be monitored half hourly and play can only recommence when it has dropped to 40 degrees or less. Breaks in play MUST be recorded in BOTH scorebooks.
NOTE : there will be no reduction of overs for adverse weather. Play may continue to 7 p.m. to make up for time lost. "
We would actively encourage extra drink breaks (ring for the termperature) to maintain hydration, the use of hats and available shade, and the use of a strong sunscreen. Player welfare must be the priority. Play MUST cease when required under the Heat Policy and play MUST cease at 7 p.m. in any case.
Last Updated: Mon 26th Jan 2009
Answer: The RDCA Senior Heat Policy reads as follows : "Should the forecast (at 11 a.m. on the day of play) be for a maximum of MORE than 40 degress, then ALL scheduled matches will be abandoned for the day. Confirmation of such a decision will be sent to club contacts by SMS message and also be available on the RDCA telephone number of 9876 7206 by 12 noon.
Where play proceeds, on a day where the temperature may reach more than 40 degrees, the Umpires or Captains (lower grades) are to telephone 9669 4916 prior to the commencement of play and then at scheduled breaks in play (drinks, and tea) to check the current temperature. Should it be "MORE than 40 degrees" (i.e. 40.1 or more) then play is to be suspended until the temperature drops to 40 degrees or less. Umpires and lower grade captains (by agreement) are empowered to terminate play for the day in the interests of participant welfare. Where there is a desire to continue, the temperature should be monitored half hourly and play can only recommence when it has dropped to 40 degrees or less. Breaks in play MUST be recorded in BOTH scorebooks.
NOTE : there will be no reduction of overs for adverse weather. Play may continue to 7 p.m. to make up for time lost. "
We would actively encourage extra drink breaks (ring for the termperature) to maintain hydration, the use of hats and available shade, and the use of a strong sunscreen. Player welfare must be the priority. Play MUST cease when required under the Heat Policy and play MUST cease at 7 p.m. in any case.
Last Updated: Mon 26th Jan 2009
Question: I noticed a lot of the reports currently in the tribunal section are in grades where there are no official umpires. When there is no official umpire in place, how is a report made and investigation undertaken?
Answer: Reports can be made under Rule 45 (1) by another club or an individual, subject to compliance with the appropriate Rules of the Association. Depending on the nature of such report or charge , the Administration Manager may then refer the details to the Investigation Officer who is bound to comply with Rule 44 (c) in detirmining whether the complaint or report has substance. You are correct in noting that some penalties have been handed down in lower grades this season and they have been the result of the "Investigation process". Whilst disappointing that unnecessary actions occur, it is pleasing that some clubs/people have seen fit to bring inappropriate behaviour to the attention of the Executive.
Last Updated: Wed 7th Jan 2009
Answer: Reports can be made under Rule 45 (1) by another club or an individual, subject to compliance with the appropriate Rules of the Association. Depending on the nature of such report or charge , the Administration Manager may then refer the details to the Investigation Officer who is bound to comply with Rule 44 (c) in detirmining whether the complaint or report has substance. You are correct in noting that some penalties have been handed down in lower grades this season and they have been the result of the "Investigation process". Whilst disappointing that unnecessary actions occur, it is pleasing that some clubs/people have seen fit to bring inappropriate behaviour to the attention of the Executive.
Last Updated: Wed 7th Jan 2009
Question: Follow up Question - Has the RDCA ever considered playing only 1st 11s in the premier grades and having no relegation out of Newey (2nd 11's and below playing A grade and below following the current grading system). This would mean moving Eastfield, Knox City and Wantirna into Newey and dropping the other 2nd 11's into the lower grades. Wouldnt this in the long run promote a stronger association by only having 1st 11's playing each other. The current system doesnt allow clubs to rebuild or have one bad year without punishment. Understand that at the moment some of the 1st 11's might not be up to it, but it would give them the opportunity to build their club and attract good players and build through their juniors (or start them), which is unlikely playing B and C grade, without having a fear of being relegated(understand it would mean a bye in Newey). The 2nd 11's currently in the premier grades would still play a decent level of competition (Temps, Wonga, M-bark etc all very strong to make a competitive platform to the clubs higher grades).
Answer: Yes, the Executive has considered most of the structure you describe. In fact your structure is very close to that put forward as an alternative to the current structure and voted on by Members around 3 years ago. The Executive sees the current structure as one that is designed to rank TEAMS in grades and thus result in more competitive games of cricket across the Association. Your view that by playing CLUBS in the higher grades thus allowing those Clubs to build their resources is a view that was taken into account, however the Executive believes that playing TEAMS at their appropriate skill level is a better way to go. Our view is that a team's grading place is rated by its competitiveness and ability to win games. The reverse of winning and gaining promotion is of course not winning and being relegated but at least that gives that team the chance to be competitive at a new level in the following season. The current structure allows a team to find its own 'level' in regard to ability etc. whereas the structure you describe may well result in some teams being less competitive.
Last Updated: Tue 30th Dec 2008
Answer: Yes, the Executive has considered most of the structure you describe. In fact your structure is very close to that put forward as an alternative to the current structure and voted on by Members around 3 years ago. The Executive sees the current structure as one that is designed to rank TEAMS in grades and thus result in more competitive games of cricket across the Association. Your view that by playing CLUBS in the higher grades thus allowing those Clubs to build their resources is a view that was taken into account, however the Executive believes that playing TEAMS at their appropriate skill level is a better way to go. Our view is that a team's grading place is rated by its competitiveness and ability to win games. The reverse of winning and gaining promotion is of course not winning and being relegated but at least that gives that team the chance to be competitive at a new level in the following season. The current structure allows a team to find its own 'level' in regard to ability etc. whereas the structure you describe may well result in some teams being less competitive.
Last Updated: Tue 30th Dec 2008
Question: In the current promotion relegation system, has the RDCA considered promoting the two teams that play off in the Grand Final and relegating the teams that finish in the last two spots. (Maybe excluding the premier grades.) Under the current system a team could go undefeated an entire season (or lose one or two games but generally dominate), lose the grand final and have to play that grade again the next year. Doesn't seem to promote that the best teams go up and the worst ones go down. Thoughts?
Answer: Consideration was given to this but oppinion was that a 25% change in teams in any grade below Chandler was enough. The situation you describe may well occur and the undefeated team may well not win the Grand Final, although it will have earned a 'double chance' as a reward for their excellence.
At the other end of the ladder a team may finish second last by a minimal margin but be well clear of the last team - relegation does not seem fair in that case.
Last Updated: Wed 17th Dec 2008
Answer: Consideration was given to this but oppinion was that a 25% change in teams in any grade below Chandler was enough. The situation you describe may well occur and the undefeated team may well not win the Grand Final, although it will have earned a 'double chance' as a reward for their excellence.
At the other end of the ladder a team may finish second last by a minimal margin but be well clear of the last team - relegation does not seem fair in that case.
Last Updated: Wed 17th Dec 2008
Question: Can you please tell me the ruling if
Everyone plays on a Saturday bar 2 games that are fixtured for Sunday -
Saturdays teams play and get results but it rains all day Sunday and those teams don't start
What is the rule ?????
Unters
Answer: The position as you describe it is that the results obtained in the games played on the Saturday stand and the teams involved in games washed out on the Sunday each get points for a draw. A key here is that the games have been fixtured that way ( ground conditions/availablity, club requests to play on the Sunday etc) so all games form part of a round of matches. Rule 83 (ii)(g), although included under the heading of Limited/Extended Over Matches, describes the principle involved and also explains the decision should the reverse position apply i.e. abandoned Saturday games (note the key aspect of the Executive abandoning games, not just games being washed out). Where weather intervenes on the Saturday ( but play is not abandoned by the Executive ) and few or no results are achieved yet the Sunday games proceed without interuption, then the Sunday results stand.
Last Updated: Mon 24th Nov 2008
Answer: The position as you describe it is that the results obtained in the games played on the Saturday stand and the teams involved in games washed out on the Sunday each get points for a draw. A key here is that the games have been fixtured that way ( ground conditions/availablity, club requests to play on the Sunday etc) so all games form part of a round of matches. Rule 83 (ii)(g), although included under the heading of Limited/Extended Over Matches, describes the principle involved and also explains the decision should the reverse position apply i.e. abandoned Saturday games (note the key aspect of the Executive abandoning games, not just games being washed out). Where weather intervenes on the Saturday ( but play is not abandoned by the Executive ) and few or no results are achieved yet the Sunday games proceed without interuption, then the Sunday results stand.
Last Updated: Mon 24th Nov 2008
Question: Four part question
Are all reported incidents/namings recorded in the tribunal section of the website or has this practice discontinued?
Are all reported incidents sent to tribunal and if not why not?
How is it possible that minimum penalties are not enforced, especially those involving cases as severe as deliberate contact with another player?
Is the chairman of the umpires advised when a penalty is imposed not in line with minimum penalties?
Answer: 1. Not all reported incidents/namings are posted - rule 79(h) covers the posting of player penalties should they recive one.
This practice will continue in accordance with the rule.
2. Rule 79(f) covers this aspect. The Administration Manager has the power to offer a reported player a penalty rather than proceeding to a tribunal hearing.
For this to happen the Administration manager consults directly with the umpire(s) who made the report, and seeks input from the player and other parties if need be.
He forms a view of the severity of the charge and detirmines what he and the umpire deem an appropriate penalty. In offering a penalty to the player a 'discount' factor is included. The player may choose to not accept the penalty offered and instead proceed to a tribunal hearing.
3. There are no 'minimum' penalties. Rule 79 (f) contains 'guidlines' however the judgement of the tribubal or Administration Manager applies when setting an actual penalty.
4. The short answer here is no, he is not, however any penalty handed down is widely known in a short period of time i.e. the player involved , his club, etc.
Last Updated: Sun 2nd Nov 2008
Answer: 1. Not all reported incidents/namings are posted - rule 79(h) covers the posting of player penalties should they recive one.
This practice will continue in accordance with the rule.
2. Rule 79(f) covers this aspect. The Administration Manager has the power to offer a reported player a penalty rather than proceeding to a tribunal hearing.
For this to happen the Administration manager consults directly with the umpire(s) who made the report, and seeks input from the player and other parties if need be.
He forms a view of the severity of the charge and detirmines what he and the umpire deem an appropriate penalty. In offering a penalty to the player a 'discount' factor is included. The player may choose to not accept the penalty offered and instead proceed to a tribunal hearing.
3. There are no 'minimum' penalties. Rule 79 (f) contains 'guidlines' however the judgement of the tribubal or Administration Manager applies when setting an actual penalty.
4. The short answer here is no, he is not, however any penalty handed down is widely known in a short period of time i.e. the player involved , his club, etc.
Last Updated: Sun 2nd Nov 2008
Question: When a player is named will there be an avenue for this player to appeal that Naming? I dont understand why we have that in place for a report but not for a naming. If an umpire names the wrong person for some reason that player should be allowed to make an appeal against it.
Answer: This is similar to a question I received last season. "Naming" of a player is covered under Rule 79 (c). There is no avenue of appeal under the "Naming" rule and there are no plans to introduce one. The Rule is clear that a "Naming" is used when an umpire considers that a players behaviour borders on a reportable offence but that a report is not warranted. This procedure should act as a clear WARNING to the player that his behaviour borders on the unacceptable. If you want to delete the concept of a "Naming" then you would probably find a lot more reportable offences being recorded. Your concerns about the wrong person being named are hard to support - the rule requires the player and his captain to be advised at the time and for the named player or his captain or club represntative to sign the "Naming Form".
Last Updated: Sun 7th Sep 2008
Answer: This is similar to a question I received last season. "Naming" of a player is covered under Rule 79 (c). There is no avenue of appeal under the "Naming" rule and there are no plans to introduce one. The Rule is clear that a "Naming" is used when an umpire considers that a players behaviour borders on a reportable offence but that a report is not warranted. This procedure should act as a clear WARNING to the player that his behaviour borders on the unacceptable. If you want to delete the concept of a "Naming" then you would probably find a lot more reportable offences being recorded. Your concerns about the wrong person being named are hard to support - the rule requires the player and his captain to be advised at the time and for the named player or his captain or club represntative to sign the "Naming Form".
Last Updated: Sun 7th Sep 2008
Question: What happened to Sth Ringwood CC and their stats results etc.
Answer: The South Ringwood and Parkwood stats and results still exist on the site, but will now come under the banner of Warranwood as the system does not recognise merged entities by their previous names. This is something on the list of things to rectify.
Last Updated: Sun 7th Sep 2008
Answer: The South Ringwood and Parkwood stats and results still exist on the site, but will now come under the banner of Warranwood as the system does not recognise merged entities by their previous names. This is something on the list of things to rectify.
Last Updated: Sun 7th Sep 2008
Question: As i can't make the information night, will there be minutes or some notes available of the website for review? I'm not sure we can expect all clubs to properly disseminate information adequately to all members.
Answer: No, there will be no Minutes or Notes published about this meeting. Preparation of items needed to be circulated to the clubs for the Annual General Meeting is time consuming and is subject to strict time lines so our endeavours will go towards meeting those requirements. If you cannot personally attend then I suggest you arrange for someone else from your club to be present. Your club Secretary has full details of the agenda, including possible Rules amendments.
Last Updated: Mon 7th Jul 2008
Answer: No, there will be no Minutes or Notes published about this meeting. Preparation of items needed to be circulated to the clubs for the Annual General Meeting is time consuming and is subject to strict time lines so our endeavours will go towards meeting those requirements. If you cannot personally attend then I suggest you arrange for someone else from your club to be present. Your club Secretary has full details of the agenda, including possible Rules amendments.
Last Updated: Mon 7th Jul 2008
Question: Is it true that seeing as our 4th XI won the semi-final on the weekend and are straight into the grand final, will we be able to play the grand final on Wonga's bottom oval seeing as our home ground for the regular season was the top oval?
Answer: That would be our intention at this stage and the final list of venues will be out early next week.
Last Updated: Mon 10th Mar 2008
Answer: That would be our intention at this stage and the final list of venues will be out early next week.
Last Updated: Mon 10th Mar 2008
Question: With the washout on 15 December, Warrandyte Vs Bayswater Park game was the only Wilkins game played, do Votes get awarded for the medal count, also is this rule going to be looked at next year and go back to how it was years ago when 75% of games must be complete in a certain grade for points to count, because I think it is currently very unfair on teams and individuals who Don't get an opportunity to get points or votes ?
Answer: Yes, votes have been awarded for this game as it was a fixtured game that was played and officiated by professional umpires. As for going back to a previous Ruling, that is a matter for the clubs to consider and to put forward a suggested Rule change for voting on during the off season. The Executive has no plans for such a change at this point.
Last Updated: Thu 14th Feb 2008
Answer: Yes, votes have been awarded for this game as it was a fixtured game that was played and officiated by professional umpires. As for going back to a previous Ruling, that is a matter for the clubs to consider and to put forward a suggested Rule change for voting on during the off season. The Executive has no plans for such a change at this point.
Last Updated: Thu 14th Feb 2008
Question: We had an incident in our match last weekend where the umpire from day 1 (2/2/08) retired mid-week and was replaced with another umpire for day 2 (9/2/08).
Obviously this was unfortunate and doesn't happen very often, however it did, and the differing standards of rule interpratation between the respective umpires was quite large. One was prepared to give certain decisions, the other wasn't. (No team was disadvantaged as each had their mixed bag of correct & incorrect calls)
My question is, has the executive given this any thought on how they can attempt to prevent this in future matches? (Hypothetically, imagine if this was to happen in the Chandler Shield Grand Final, there would be chaos). Thanks and looking forward to your reply. (Junior)
Answer: The situation you describe is certainly unfortunate and probably unavoidable however I am not sure that there is any way you can have a formal fall back position in place. Fortunately this scenario does not seem to happen often - players also sometimes miss the completion of games for various reasons and this will always happen when you play two day games with seven days between match days. In finals matches there should always be two umpires appointed so if one was to become unavailable the other umpire could complete the game.
Last Updated: Wed 13th Feb 2008
Obviously this was unfortunate and doesn't happen very often, however it did, and the differing standards of rule interpratation between the respective umpires was quite large. One was prepared to give certain decisions, the other wasn't. (No team was disadvantaged as each had their mixed bag of correct & incorrect calls)
My question is, has the executive given this any thought on how they can attempt to prevent this in future matches? (Hypothetically, imagine if this was to happen in the Chandler Shield Grand Final, there would be chaos). Thanks and looking forward to your reply. (Junior)
Answer: The situation you describe is certainly unfortunate and probably unavoidable however I am not sure that there is any way you can have a formal fall back position in place. Fortunately this scenario does not seem to happen often - players also sometimes miss the completion of games for various reasons and this will always happen when you play two day games with seven days between match days. In finals matches there should always be two umpires appointed so if one was to become unavailable the other umpire could complete the game.
Last Updated: Wed 13th Feb 2008
Question: Has the RDCA ever thought of playing the Chandler Grand final on it's own weekend so there will be more in attendance and maybe a chance for the whole club to support their 1st 11 team?
Answer: This has been discussed at Executive level however there are not enough playing days in a season to allow it to happen with the current finals system in place. There is simply not a spare weekend available.
Last Updated: Wed 13th Feb 2008
Answer: This has been discussed at Executive level however there are not enough playing days in a season to allow it to happen with the current finals system in place. There is simply not a spare weekend available.
Last Updated: Wed 13th Feb 2008
Question: In Wilkins next year you play a team in 2 one dayers and no 2 dayers. Is there a chance of turning the 2nd one dayer into a 2 dayer on a saturday/sunday??
Answer: Well there is always that possibility although player surveys have always indicated Sunday cricket is not attractive to players unless it is for a special occasion and a 'one off'. Next year we revert to 24 playing days (no Easter or Christmas influences) allowing a 21 day home and away season so it is likely the 8 team grades can have a 7 x 2 day and 7 x 1 day season. The fixturing process will take place closer to next season.
Last Updated: Sun 10th Feb 2008
Answer: Well there is always that possibility although player surveys have always indicated Sunday cricket is not attractive to players unless it is for a special occasion and a 'one off'. Next year we revert to 24 playing days (no Easter or Christmas influences) allowing a 21 day home and away season so it is likely the 8 team grades can have a 7 x 2 day and 7 x 1 day season. The fixturing process will take place closer to next season.
Last Updated: Sun 10th Feb 2008
Question: We currently have 2 sides in the comp at the moment and are looking to expand next season to 4.
The question i have is do we get to nomimate where our 4 sides play next season, or is it left up to the Executive to decide where we play?
Currently we have 2 sides, the firsts in D Grade and the seconds in J grade with the possability of relagation to K Grade.
Answer: You do not get to nominate the grades in which your teams play although, if you were able to field an extra 2 sides next season, you may make a submission to the Executive for their consideration. A general underlying rule is that teams are expected to work their way up through the grades dependant on performance.
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Answer: You do not get to nominate the grades in which your teams play although, if you were able to field an extra 2 sides next season, you may make a submission to the Executive for their consideration. A general underlying rule is that teams are expected to work their way up through the grades dependant on performance.
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Question: With the two washouts before Xmas, will there be any modification to the finals Qualification this year?
Answer: The short answer is no. The Operations Committee reviewed this topic at its last meeting and decided to leave the qualification criteria as detailed in Circular 2. This decision was detailed in Circular 8 (issued since you submitted your question). The Circulars can be viewed in the 'Downloads' section of the website. Rule 76 (c) contained in the Senior Rules (also in the 'Downloads' section) deals with consecutively graded teams playing in finals on the same day.
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Answer: The short answer is no. The Operations Committee reviewed this topic at its last meeting and decided to leave the qualification criteria as detailed in Circular 2. This decision was detailed in Circular 8 (issued since you submitted your question). The Circulars can be viewed in the 'Downloads' section of the website. Rule 76 (c) contained in the Senior Rules (also in the 'Downloads' section) deals with consecutively graded teams playing in finals on the same day.
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Question: I know this seems to come up on the forum every season but im after clarification with qualification for finals. Depending on which grade you are qualifying for, the rule states you need to play X games in these or lower grades. Does this mean you must play X games IN that grade or a lower grade OR you must play X games COLLECTIVELY in that grade or lower? Ie. Must it be 5 games in B grade or can you play 3 games in B grade & 2 games in F grade to qualify for B grade?
Answer: Circular 2 included a section on finals qualification criteria. If I understand your question correctly then yes, you need to play a minimum total number of games in order to qualify for finals. The second example you give is correct - as long as you play in at least the total number of games in the particular grade or lower you can qualify for the higher grade so 3 games in B grade and 2 games in F grade qualifies for B grade finals (but not F).
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Answer: Circular 2 included a section on finals qualification criteria. If I understand your question correctly then yes, you need to play a minimum total number of games in order to qualify for finals. The second example you give is correct - as long as you play in at least the total number of games in the particular grade or lower you can qualify for the higher grade so 3 games in B grade and 2 games in F grade qualifies for B grade finals (but not F).
Last Updated: Sun 3rd Feb 2008
Question: What are the official requirements to qualify for a bowling or batting average? Do the requirements vary between grades or is there one generic criteria that needs to be met?
Answer: > Batting and bowling average qualifying criteria are set out in Rule 61. The batting average award requires that a player bat in at least half the matches played by his team in the particular grade and score more than 250 runs in the particular grade. The bowling average award requires a player to bowl in at least half the matches played by his team in the particular grade, bowl more than 480 deliveries and take not less than 20 wickets in the particular grade.
Last Updated: Thu 31st Jan 2008
Answer: > Batting and bowling average qualifying criteria are set out in Rule 61. The batting average award requires that a player bat in at least half the matches played by his team in the particular grade and score more than 250 runs in the particular grade. The bowling average award requires a player to bowl in at least half the matches played by his team in the particular grade, bowl more than 480 deliveries and take not less than 20 wickets in the particular grade.
Last Updated: Thu 31st Jan 2008
Question: Does the code of conduct span outside the playing field? For instance at other games, on forums etc.? Can a player be investigated for inappropriate comments made on a forum (here or elsewhere) or behaviour at matches other than the one they are playing in? (ie; Bushranger games)
Answer: The Code of Conduct can be found on the Website Home Page (right hand index) and it covers players, officials and supporters during a match. The Code covers all games played within the Association but does not cover behaviour at other games (e.g. the Bushrangers as you mention). The Code does not currently cover the Forum however there are guidelines for Forum users posted on the Forum 'home' page. A draft "RDCA Website Acceptable User Policy" document has been prepared and is likely to be discussed at the next Board of Management meeting.
Last Updated: Thu 31st Jan 2008
Answer: The Code of Conduct can be found on the Website Home Page (right hand index) and it covers players, officials and supporters during a match. The Code covers all games played within the Association but does not cover behaviour at other games (e.g. the Bushrangers as you mention). The Code does not currently cover the Forum however there are guidelines for Forum users posted on the Forum 'home' page. A draft "RDCA Website Acceptable User Policy" document has been prepared and is likely to be discussed at the next Board of Management meeting.
Last Updated: Thu 31st Jan 2008
Question: I visited the Mornington Peninsula during the week and their association was running a 20/20 comp with all their clubs involved on a Tue/Thur night.
The concept seemed great and has created much interest within their association. On a Tuesday night Dromana CC was playing Mount Martha CC and there would have been over 150+ spectators at the ground which had a great atmosphere.
Could the RDCA look at running something similar next season?
Answer: The RDCA Executive will be looking at this concept during the 'off season' with some background work already under way. We acknowledge that the 20/20 concept may prove popular amongst players and clubs but there are many factors that need to be considered and this will take some time to achieve.
Last Updated: Mon 28th Jan 2008
Answer: The RDCA Executive will be looking at this concept during the 'off season' with some background work already under way. We acknowledge that the 20/20 concept may prove popular amongst players and clubs but there are many factors that need to be considered and this will take some time to achieve.
Last Updated: Mon 28th Jan 2008
Question: Follow up question re naming players.
Seems unfair that a player can be named without right of review. Then maybe get named again for a totally different reason ...ie: not submitting an umpires report and automatically collect two weeks suspension.
Had there been a right of review in the first instance and the initial 'naming' subsequently overturned, a suspension would not have occurred.
My question....why are there no review rights on a 'naming'?
Answer: A 'naming' can be seen as a warning about the players behaviour. As such a review is not granted on the basis that the player becomes aware that his behaviour is seen as bordering on the unacceptable - hopefully the 'naming' works and the player modifies his behaviour going forward. Without having statistics readily available to me, the vast majority of 'namings' lapse without further action required. In regard to the non submission of Umpires Reports, this is the responsibility of only the team Captain where professional umpires have been appointed. An initial non compliance is noted by a written warning to the Captain in the hope (and expectation) that future Reports are completed. Failure to complete a Report on a second occasion results in a "naming" and failure in a third occasion results in a second 'naming' and a suspension. I would think it fair that a Captain in effect receives two warnings before any suspension occurs - since the inception of this Rule the completion of Umpires Reports has improved dramatically.
The scenario you put forward (two 'namings' for different reasons ) would apply to Captains and we would hope that they, as Captains, would be well aware of their responsibilities - if not then it is a club management issue.
Last Updated: Tue 18th Dec 2007
Seems unfair that a player can be named without right of review. Then maybe get named again for a totally different reason ...ie: not submitting an umpires report and automatically collect two weeks suspension.
Had there been a right of review in the first instance and the initial 'naming' subsequently overturned, a suspension would not have occurred.
My question....why are there no review rights on a 'naming'?
Answer: A 'naming' can be seen as a warning about the players behaviour. As such a review is not granted on the basis that the player becomes aware that his behaviour is seen as bordering on the unacceptable - hopefully the 'naming' works and the player modifies his behaviour going forward. Without having statistics readily available to me, the vast majority of 'namings' lapse without further action required. In regard to the non submission of Umpires Reports, this is the responsibility of only the team Captain where professional umpires have been appointed. An initial non compliance is noted by a written warning to the Captain in the hope (and expectation) that future Reports are completed. Failure to complete a Report on a second occasion results in a "naming" and failure in a third occasion results in a second 'naming' and a suspension. I would think it fair that a Captain in effect receives two warnings before any suspension occurs - since the inception of this Rule the completion of Umpires Reports has improved dramatically.
The scenario you put forward (two 'namings' for different reasons ) would apply to Captains and we would hope that they, as Captains, would be well aware of their responsibilities - if not then it is a club management issue.
Last Updated: Tue 18th Dec 2007
Question: With the complete washout of all round 6 (Day 1) Chandler matches this weekend and with no junior games next week, do you think the RDCA should make the decision to play 50 over 1 day matches next week, rather than the scheduled 40?
Answer: The Operations Committee meets tomorrow night (Monday) and this topic is already flagged for discussion. Without pre-empting the tone of the discussion I would think that there is a possibility for a change at Chandler level, the other grades have a different fixture already in place.
The impact of an earlier start on players (work) and umpires would need to be considered.
Last Updated: Sun 16th Dec 2007
Answer: The Operations Committee meets tomorrow night (Monday) and this topic is already flagged for discussion. Without pre-empting the tone of the discussion I would think that there is a possibility for a change at Chandler level, the other grades have a different fixture already in place.
The impact of an earlier start on players (work) and umpires would need to be considered.
Last Updated: Sun 16th Dec 2007
Question: I have asked the umpires but they feel it's better to talk to the No1 person
My question is When a player is named by an Umpire is there an avenue for the player to appeal that decisson or is it just taken on the Umpires version of events.
Answer: The "naming" of a player is at the discretion of a professional umpire under Rule 79. There is no avenue for a player to appeal against a "naming". "Naming" is an avenue for an umpire to issue a formal 'warning' to a player where the umpire is of the opinion that a formal report is not warranted but that the player's behaviour is of concern. If a player is "named" twice within a season they will incur an automatic two match suspension - you would hope that the first "naming" would act as a deterrent for future unacceptable behaviour. A "naming" in a finals match carries over to the next season and a captain of a team that fails to submit a "Captains Appraisal of Professional Umpires" form can be "named" if he fails to lodge such a Report on two occasions during the season (after he has received a formal warning after the first occasion). Note that "Namings" regarding player behaviour can only be made by professional umpires - in lower grades without professional umpires alleged unacceptable behaviour should be reported to the Executive via your club Secretary.
Last Updated: Sun 9th Dec 2007
My question is When a player is named by an Umpire is there an avenue for the player to appeal that decisson or is it just taken on the Umpires version of events.
Answer: The "naming" of a player is at the discretion of a professional umpire under Rule 79. There is no avenue for a player to appeal against a "naming". "Naming" is an avenue for an umpire to issue a formal 'warning' to a player where the umpire is of the opinion that a formal report is not warranted but that the player's behaviour is of concern. If a player is "named" twice within a season they will incur an automatic two match suspension - you would hope that the first "naming" would act as a deterrent for future unacceptable behaviour. A "naming" in a finals match carries over to the next season and a captain of a team that fails to submit a "Captains Appraisal of Professional Umpires" form can be "named" if he fails to lodge such a Report on two occasions during the season (after he has received a formal warning after the first occasion). Note that "Namings" regarding player behaviour can only be made by professional umpires - in lower grades without professional umpires alleged unacceptable behaviour should be reported to the Executive via your club Secretary.
Last Updated: Sun 9th Dec 2007
Question: Most of us are aware of the collective decision in 2006 by RDCA clubs to keep the status quo competition structure, but what is the history behind how the Chandler competition came to look so different in regards to structure (12 teams) and match format (eg mostly 2-dayers) from the other 15 grades?
Given it's the RDCA's marquee grade, is it the opinion of the exec that Chandler represents the ideal structure under which a high standard of cricket is to be played?
Answer: Going back in time the Chandler 1 to 4 grading system was introduced in 1981/2 and in the 2002/3 season Chandler 3 and 4 were joined into the 8 team system with Chandler 1 and 2 remaining as 12 team grades. As you mention, at the start of the 2006/7 season the structure changed again where Chandler 2 was changed to an 8 team grade leaving Chandler 1 as the only 12 team grade in the competition. In 2004/5 an 8 team Chandler grade was 'floated' by the Executive and it is fair to say that that proposal did not gain sufficient support to proceed. The current grading system is supported by the Executive as it seeks to grade teams rather than clubs with the hope that teams will find their own levels resulting in more even matches. This may take a couple of years to achieve and the Executive will continue to monitor results.
Last Updated: Sun 2nd Dec 2007
Answer: Going back in time the Chandler 1 to 4 grading system was introduced in 1981/2 and in the 2002/3 season Chandler 3 and 4 were joined into the 8 team system with Chandler 1 and 2 remaining as 12 team grades. As you mention, at the start of the 2006/7 season the structure changed again where Chandler 2 was changed to an 8 team grade leaving Chandler 1 as the only 12 team grade in the competition. In 2004/5 an 8 team Chandler grade was 'floated' by the Executive and it is fair to say that that proposal did not gain sufficient support to proceed. The current grading system is supported by the Executive as it seeks to grade teams rather than clubs with the hope that teams will find their own levels resulting in more even matches. This may take a couple of years to achieve and the Executive will continue to monitor results.
Last Updated: Sun 2nd Dec 2007
Question: This segment is a great intiative Ian. Congrats. Further to Unters question regarding standardising the top grades, my question is this. Would a change in the RDCA Constitution be the only way to exclude Life Members from voting on questions as crucial as grading and restucture?
My view is that this should be the domain of club delegates and the RDCA only and not subject to the influence of folk (with the greatest respect) whose time in the game may have passed them by and who may not be up to date with what is current.
Answer: You are quite correct - it would take a change to the Constitution of the Association to alter voting rights. I imagine that any move to change voting rights would need to result in people either having a vote or they do not - I am not sure that you could allow voting or otherwise on some topics but not others.
Last Updated: Sun 25th Nov 2007
Answer: You are quite correct - it would take a change to the Constitution of the Association to alter voting rights. I imagine that any move to change voting rights would need to result in people either having a vote or they do not - I am not sure that you could allow voting or otherwise on some topics but not others.
Last Updated: Sun 25th Nov 2007
Question: What would be the RDCA opinion on making a 2 day win worth more than a 1 day win (i.e 10 points for a 2 dayer and 6 points for a 1 dayer)- would this help sides focus on 2 day cricket seeing all finals are 2 day cricket even though we play more 1 day games during the year?
Answer: Personally speaking, I am not sure that having different values for wins is a good idea. I am sure that teams and clubs try to win as many games as they can, regardless of the format, and I do not think that they put more emphasis on two day (or one day for that matter) games to the detriment of other matches. The ability to change the points system rests with the Executive and the clubs via the annual Rules Committee process.
Last Updated: Wed 21st Nov 2007
Answer: Personally speaking, I am not sure that having different values for wins is a good idea. I am sure that teams and clubs try to win as many games as they can, regardless of the format, and I do not think that they put more emphasis on two day (or one day for that matter) games to the detriment of other matches. The ability to change the points system rests with the Executive and the clubs via the annual Rules Committee process.
Last Updated: Wed 21st Nov 2007
Question: Any chance Chandler will/can revert back to the same fixture and both playing 2 day games.
Maybe the 1 day system should be for C Grade down so all clubs can have their 1 + 2 playing the same system.
The system we have now is a Nightmare. (Mark Untenahrer)
Answer: there is an avenue under Rule 17 (b) (5) for clubs to submit alternative grading structures under which the Association could operate. This actually occurred in August 2006 when a Special Meeting was held to consider the current grading system as put forward by the Association Executive and an alternate proposal put forward by a number of clubs. The current grading structure was passed after a vote of those people eligible to vote and this structure is now in its second season of operation. Mark, the short answer to your question is, yes, there is an avenue as I have detailed above. The Senior Rules of the Association can be found on the "Downloads" section of the website.
Last Updated: Wed 21st Nov 2007
Answer: there is an avenue under Rule 17 (b) (5) for clubs to submit alternative grading structures under which the Association could operate. This actually occurred in August 2006 when a Special Meeting was held to consider the current grading system as put forward by the Association Executive and an alternate proposal put forward by a number of clubs. The current grading structure was passed after a vote of those people eligible to vote and this structure is now in its second season of operation. Mark, the short answer to your question is, yes, there is an avenue as I have detailed above. The Senior Rules of the Association can be found on the "Downloads" section of the website.
Last Updated: Wed 21st Nov 2007
Question: Is there any chance of playing 1 or 2 of the remaining 1 day games in coloured tops with white balls? (Marcus Adams)
Answer: An interesting question thanks Marcus. Speaking personally, the concept of coloured shirts in one day games is worth consideration if clubs are prepared to support such an innovation. It may well be an avenue for additional revenue generation but it would also be an additional expense to clubs and players so the cost/benefit analysis would need to be considered. The Executive would need to approve the design of any uniform change and Rule 78 (Attire) would require amendment. Marcus, I think this is something that needs further thought before any implementation can occur and allowing it to happen this season is premature but by all means it can be considered prior to next season if a club(s) sees fit to prepare a submission to the Executive. The use of a white ball this season would also be premature but, again, it is something that can be considered prior to next year.
Last Updated: Mon 19th Nov 2007
Answer: An interesting question thanks Marcus. Speaking personally, the concept of coloured shirts in one day games is worth consideration if clubs are prepared to support such an innovation. It may well be an avenue for additional revenue generation but it would also be an additional expense to clubs and players so the cost/benefit analysis would need to be considered. The Executive would need to approve the design of any uniform change and Rule 78 (Attire) would require amendment. Marcus, I think this is something that needs further thought before any implementation can occur and allowing it to happen this season is premature but by all means it can be considered prior to next season if a club(s) sees fit to prepare a submission to the Executive. The use of a white ball this season would also be premature but, again, it is something that can be considered prior to next year.
Last Updated: Mon 19th Nov 2007
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